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Alan Chenkin said in November 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

The lenders usually reach out to homeowners as “an attempt to collect a debt”, and take as much money from them as they can to keep the payments current. Many become destitute, and the only recourse is Foreclosure, deed in lieu, or just walking away.
The sad part is that many homeowners are ill-equipped to negotiate, or use the bank-backed debt collectors to “negotiate”.
I still did not see where this article actually described the consequences of a short sale in any detail.

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Jordan Fisher said in November 24th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

I believe this is the article D.C. was referencing:

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/131072

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Connie Caldwell said in November 24th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

I agree this article doesn’t give any specific remedy to help owners or benefits to short sale. Isn’t there’s a Foreclosure Act enacted in 2007 or 2008 saying that if the owner short sale that the difference in short sale and loan balance owed in exhibited from being taxed if over $500k for individual and $1 million for a couple?? Please let me know or direct me to this act if anyone has knowledge of it.

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Susan said in November 24th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

Did you insert the wrong article? The article above is about loan modifications, not about short sales vs. foreclosures. There is nothing about short sales in the above article.

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Ryan Vaughan said in November 24th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

if the banks and lenders would stop and open their eyes they would relize if they make houseing more affordable to the people they wouldn’t need the 700 billion $ bailout. people don’t want to lose there homes when lenders and banks foreclose on these family’s they lose money.

and to think these people went to school to learn how to fail .to rip people off and screw up the econemy

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Chris Guerra said in November 24th, 2008 at 7:14 pm

Here’s the plan (or at least the overview) – WE THE PEOPLE – MUST MUST MUST Demand from our government. I proposed this before ANY of the 700 Billion hit Wall Street – but of course it fell on deaf ears- their just wasn’t enough of our voices pushing for this type of action of our elected officials.

Instead of giving the 700 Billion to the Wall Street and Banking Exec’s to buy more mansions and spend lavishly. Why not give this money to the people that are now in Foreclosure or otherwise have home mortgages that are current. With the stipulation that the money given them MUST pay off their mortgage(s).

Then what do you think will happen, the banks will have this money back in their hands again to loan out or do whatever with, people have their homes paid for and this will stabalize home prices for all of our neighbors that have their homes paid for, and all of us should now be able to take the money from their jobs and pay their bills, car loans, credit card debts and stabalize this other part of the credit economy – money starts flowing again -the proud people of this country can have money to place in savings accounts, the stock market, and real estate. By doing this (giving big money to the taxpayers to pay off their mortgages)- they can live in dignity, fuel the economy, pay their taxes, afford medical insurance, put their children through college, make new loans, and actually put this country back on it’s feet.

This same money the president wants to give to the big bankers and wall street (which they will never loan out the way they need to to get the wheels of progress rolling) but their is a decidedly different outcome to this plan and approach – THE LITTLE GUY WINS BIG TIME – FINALLY !

AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY (FINANCIALLY AND OTHERWISE) ARE NOW BACK IN CONTROL – WE THE PEOPLE.

Surely there will be other details to work out – this is just the global view.

Thanks for supporting this and please pass it on to all you know, and your congress and senators who are mis-representing you.

Chris Guerra

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Suzay said in November 25th, 2008 at 11:18 am

Yesterday in our Mohave Valley(NORTHERN AZ) 11-24-08 newspaper was a front page article of “Housing agency offering free assistance hotline”. The toll free Arizona Foreclosure Help Line will refer you to housing counselors>>www.housing.com
When you go to the government site, it told how at a “working lunch, 4 hour session, social workers could become “certified foreclosure counselors”, Wells Fargo would be teaching how to talk with a loss mitigator**Only one session was offered,***serving southern Arizona exclusively., and **ALL other “Resources”-no links to anything!!
—–WOW in less than 4 hours a social worker could become certified to work on the hot line and tell people what to do-EXSKIIUSE ME, BUT THAT IS REALLY SCARY!!-ESPECIALLY FOR THE HAPLESS VICTIMS.
The newspaper also said”"”"Avoid foreclosure prevention companies. Many for profit companies will contact you promising to negotiate a loan work out, with your lender. While they may be legitimate businesses, they will charge you a hefty fee)often two or three months mortgage payments) for information or services your lender or a HUD approved housing counselor will provide for free if you contact them. You don’t need to pay fees for foreclosure prevention help-use that money to pay the mortgage instead”"”.-Fred Karnas wrote this not me!
Hello Fred, for legit companies, the fee is based on the size of the mortgage, is there more than one mortgage? is it the same lender or another lender? Are your “working lunch” counselors certified to “comb” for TILA-RESPA vios? Can they reduce credit card debt? And why don’t you have ANY answers, or links to help MR EXPERT?
Yup Alan Chenkin’s remark is correct. Home-owners will probably be sent to talk with Collections,or Litigation, not Mitigation… They are unknowingly encouraged by Government pseudo- EXPERTS to go it on their own, instead of getting a real world professional, yes, who may charge money in-order to deliver a business-based service to help them, but can fix ARMS, may get reduction in principal,etc.—-far more bang for the buck than just working with the lender.(last Aug I paid AHEAD on a mortgage,with a letter demanding the interest payments go on the FRONT end of the loan-it was Wellfargo-and they were wanting to charge me $250 for a loan modification, that would then reduce the amount of principal being applied, which by the way is about $200/mo.–duh??)
Last note-if you are housing challenged NOW, the AZ and Fed(Neighborhood Stabilization & Housing Rescue Act Aug08)-get a pro to help you. These programs were thrown into the laps of state govt.(Congress had 30 days to delegate), Local must apply to HUD by Dec. 1st 2008. The Money aint coming til February, then local govt. has to figure out how to allocate it, local 501-C-3’s etc.
Don’t hold your breath. Get help now!

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Dawn Stanley said in November 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

I feel for those who have valid reasons for falling behind on their payment(s). Unfortunately, I personally do not believe that the majority are innocent victims. Of course that is something which will have to be dealt with later, who is innocent and who was greedy! It’s sad that some folks will hold their kids in front of them and say poor us, meanwhile they have the hummer and the boat that they bought with the inflated equity of a home they only lived in for 6 months with zero downpayment. Here in SoCAL, they are so sophisticated, even the non-English (that need gov’t assistance), have “attorneys” to hide behind and are in bankruptcy so that they can screw we tax payers for another 6 – 12 months of no housing costs, see now, they pay no rent, no house payment, no property tax and no house insurance, they keep the hummer and the boat… the American DREAM is screwing your neighbor with a smile on your face. What these folks do not realize is that there is a paper-trail and they will be had, EVENTUALLY. So let’s straighten out the financial mess and then deal with accountability.
And if you are one of those sucking the system dry, smiling smuggly… you will not be able to hide for long… the tax-payer will hold you accountable on that you can be sure… it’s just a matter of time. The difference between a Short-sale and a foreclosure is INTEGRITY. Have a Nice Day and be a good citizen, do what is right for your community, sale the damn house that you should never have bought in the first place. Amen.

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Rod Hill said in November 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

You must have coppied the wrong article this one has nothing about credit score difference between a short sale and a foreclosure
BTW a short sale will show on the credit report as a “settled” account 100 to 150 drop in score approx

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mohammad raza said in November 25th, 2008 at 9:46 pm

Ithink this information about benifits of short sale VS forecloureis very powerful argument to help the homeowner make arational decision about his financial future

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Katy Rote said in November 26th, 2008 at 1:27 am

I agree with Alan, D.C. I don’t think this particular article described the pros & cons of short sale vs. foreclosures. I didn’t see anything about how it affects their credit, employment, or social benefits. Yes, obviously, those things will be greatly affected, but this article just didn’t seem to address those issues.
But please keep sending us stuff like this because it’s good for us to keep up with the industry.

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Marvin Sanders said in November 26th, 2008 at 8:15 am

I agree with Alan, I did not see that his article described any benefits of a short sale over a foreclosure. Did you post the wrong article?

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Dan H said in December 2nd, 2008 at 12:29 pm

I didn’t see anywhere in this article about how a short sale would benefit a defaulted homeowner??? This only talked about counseling services offered by lenders. It seems to me that giving this to a homeowner prospect would cause them to seek options other than a short sale.

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Rob Hixon said in December 4th, 2008 at 11:27 am

I have to agree, the article said >>>>>>>>
find this phone number in Arizona and they will tell you to, make your house payment.Maybe I should reread it — again.

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Rodney Lewis said in December 4th, 2008 at 11:46 am

Yeah what Alan Chenkin said. I have a young lady in preforeclosure and asked if I can help her stay in and save her home from being foreclosed on. I need info on how to structure a deal for her to be able to keep her home and credit intact.

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Marvin Carr said in December 4th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Alan, I believe you meant “described the consequences of a foreclosure”. Click on the link right below the first paragraph.

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D.C. Fawcett said in December 4th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

the link has been updated
DC

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D.C. Fawcett said in December 4th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
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Willie said in December 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 pm

As far as staying in your home after a foreclosure, it is not possible for the home owner to stay in the home after a short sale. The reason the bank would do a short sale is so that they would be able to recoup some of their money back. But the homeowner would not be able to remain in the home because they were not able to maintain their financial responsibility in the first place. I understand what is happening with the economy, but some people have bit off more than they can chew while others were and are unfortunate. But we all must understand that a bank is also a business and they also need to survive. However going through a short sale will save the homeowner 100 to roughly 250 points on their credit and enable them to be able to qualify for another loan within 18 months unlike a foreclosure. A foreclosure will subtract 100 to 300 points and they would not be able to qualify for a loan for approximately 3, 5, 7 and in a lot of cases up to 10 yrs. And even worse than that, some people will not be able to qualify for a home loan again if a foreclosure is on their credit report. So a short sale is at this point the best option for the bank, the homeowner (who shouldn’t have to pay a fees), and the mediator.
But be advised, a person in foreclosure does have 7 or 8 options. If you would like to know your options, just email me at my email address. If you would like too, you can go to my website and enter your information. I will see what I can do to help you. I will give you your options (FREE) and let you make your decision as far as what road you would like to take. But do not make yourself sick by stressing. Remember, there is a fix, it isn’t the end of the world. You still have health and family. This will only make you stronger. I’ve personally hit bottom a couple of times. Maybe it was to let you know that there is always light at the other end. Let me help you or at lease help point you in the right direction.
We need to put our troubles back on the Lord and let him bring us through this. He has in the past, and he will in the present and future if we ask. After all, he did tell us to cast all of our burdens on him. If you noticed, every since this “Great Nation” of our started taking God out of the equation, it has been going down hill. When are we going to learn?

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Timur Alhimenkov said in January 27th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

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I always wanted to write in my site something like that. Can I take part of your post to my site?
Of course, I will add backlink?

Regards, Timur I. Alhimenkov

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