Last Thursday while I was talking to one of my Gold coaching students on one of our coaching calls, he asked me who the short sale lenders are that he should be working with. I thought this would be helpful for your short sale biz as well so I posted it here for ya.
Here is the million dollar question that my gold student had about the lenders right now:
The Question:
Who are the good lenders to work with on Short Sales?
Can you post a list of the good and bad lenders?
My Answer:
Banks that are good to work with now may not be good to work with months from now and banks that are bad to work with now may not be bad to work with months from now. Because we negotiate a lot of deals for our students we are always keeping our hand on the pulse of the lenders.
I don’t recommend avoiding any lenders because all lenders will take a short sale if you justify your case and prove to them that it’s in their best interest to take the discount.
A lot of it comes down to the amount of contacts that you have inside the bank and how good of a rapport you have with the loss mitigators that you have relationships with at each lender. If you don’t know any reps in any banks and are trying get your deals done starting with customer service, your experience could be very different.
Here is a quick crib sheet of what some of the lenders are doing.
I went in to my loss mitigation department and asked one of my mitigators that wasn’t on the phone with a bank and this is what she rattled off the top of her head.
The lenders are changing so fast, this may not be the same list a month from now or a week from now. Some lenders are hiring people in their default departments as fast as they can and some lenders are being acquired by other banks. Some lenders suspend short sale negotiations during their merger process.
This is inside information from my loss mitigation department.
You can’t get better information than this.
Favorable Short Sale Lenders
1. Home Q – they approve quickly
2. WAMU- they also approve quickly
3 American Home, they approve, with only minimal wait.
4. Citi Financial, move very quickly with their files.
5. wells Fargo, they approve, if the no’s are right, they really stand behind the BPO
6. Accredited, they really work with me, approve quickly
7. ASC approves files, if you don’t mind waiting, they are trying to move quicker with the files, they have hired more Loss Mitigators so they are moving alot quicker that they used too.
8. Aurora, they do full appraisal’s, but will note repairs.
Short Sale Lenders I DON’T LIKE
1. Bank Of America, they will only accept 90% of market value, will only do a full appraisal, do not take into consideration any repairs.
2. Suntrust
3. FIRST FRANKLIN they hate our kind, & have no problem telling us so!!!
4. GMAC, they do approve, but if they are the 2nd. they do not walk away, would rather go to auction.
5. Ocwen
6. Indymac, they want to charge $300.00 processing fee.
7. Wacovia, they would rather go to auction, than take a reduction.
8. EMC they will stand behind their BPO, even when it does not make sense, you can send them as many comps as you would like proving your case, it does not matter.
9. Carrington Mortgage – they have their head up their #$$.
THE LENDERS WHO TAKE THE SHORTEST TIME.
1. Citi Financial, had an approval in less than 2 months.
2. Home Q moves quickly.
3. Wamu, once the bpo is back, they move quickly
4. Wells Fargo
ASC takes the longest, they have been the slowest lender yet, but now they have more staff, I believe that will change.
This is why it’s important to stay up to date on what’s happening with lenders on a regular basis.
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I couldn’t agree with you more on Carrington.
You did not mention Everhome Mortgage. I just worked a short sale and they were very accommodating. We received an offer 1 week ago and it has already been processed and approved by the bank. Now we just have to wait until closing.
I totally disagree on EMC. They did come in high,but when I sent them comps and the back up they backed down for me. They have been easy to work with now.
It does depend on the mitigators.
thanks for the info I can’t afford to be your
student I wonder if I can be one of your birddogs
or if I find a deal and have it under contract
can your people do it for me?
You are right on about Wachovia. They were going down the tubes and they were going to take everyone with them. I sympathze for their customers. They are going to suffer for a very long time.
I’m surprised that Aurora was on your “favorable short sale lenders” list, I’m finding them very difficult to work with, though my experience with them is limited to this one transaction so far. They are very professional on the phone. Also surprised to see Wells Fargo on your “lenders who take the shortest time” list, just completed a short sale with Wells Fargo and it took a full two months. Again, it’s my first experience with Wells Fargo, I’m sure they don’t take so long on every deal.
Great article, thanks!
Scott Taylor, Realtor
Orlando, Florida
http://www.MyOrlandoAgent.com
HELLO I AM IN THE SAME PROBLEM AS RAMIRO I AM A BROKE LOAN OFFICER AT THIS MOMENT TRYING TO START IN THE REAL ESTATE FLIPPING BUSSINESS I LIVE IN BROWARD COUNTY FL AND I WONDER IF I COULD START WORKING FOR YOU AS A BIRDDOG IN BROWARD COUNTY AND MIAMIDADE COUNTY I WANT TO LEARN THE FLIPPING BUSSINESS THANKS AGAIN I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW TO BUY FORECLOSURE WITH NO CREDIT OR BAD CREDIT. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT HOUSES AND CANY GET THEM BECAUSE OF CREDIT.
Have you heard of buying a house through a government grant? How does one find a government grant to get this house?
Nowhere is Countrywide mentioned. They are the absolute worst to work with. We have been actively waiting over 6 months to get an approval and it is still sitting on the 3rd negotiators desk. they have been telling us for 2 months now that the approval should be any day now!! What a joke and completely unethical business practices. Our buyers are actively looking at other properties and have offers on two others which are showing positive movement and they are with Wells Fargo!!!
Your assesment of the lenders is correct. HOWEVER, some Wells Fargo negotiators lie about their BPO. They inflate the BPO in the hope that the buyer will up the offer. So far, I trapped Two negotiators at Wells Fargo in a lie. They told me what their BPO came in at. When I checked with the person who did the BPO (I have known him for years) he showed me the numbers he submitted to Wells Fargo. They were MUCH lower than what the negotitors claimed. Has anyone run into a similar situation?
DC, i have a very favorable experienced with Litton Loan Servicing. Of course i think the key to a successful short sale negotiations is to have a complete package. My first short sale with Litton was approved in 1 month. Again, if a short sale package have all the documents including
HUD-1 showing the lender net payoff, this is what they are interested the most. See you at the top.
This is very up-to-date information. I think I’ll share it on Digg.
Very nice collection of information on that question. Thanks to the author. I have been looking for such an article since January! Thank you again!
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